Sunday, January 27, 2013

flashback

Some of my readers (family and friends-i've-actually-met) may wonder why i read diabetic blogs, being a non-diabetic:  the answer is easy -- carbohydrates are not my buddies, any more than they are theirs!  Thus i pick up good information as well as recipe ideas and frequently get a good laugh -- especially at http://thelowcarbdiabetic.blogspot.com.  The guys there have a history of verbal tangling with the "Low-Carb Anti's" in diabetic forums, and i'm often well entertained by stories of the battles.  LCAs are LCAs, no matter what the forum!

Apparently, one of the main d-LCAs (ooh, sounds like a bad particle, doesn't it?) has just discovered the GLYCEMIC INDEX!!!  Too bad it's "old science" and pretty much discredited as well.  The great usefulness of this concept, to me, has been as a tool to show people that whole-wheat bread is more damaging to blood-glucose than table sugar.  But in composing his post, Eddie included a terrific video from Barry Groves that i want to share, along with an anecdote....

A few years ago i picked up the Montignac book du jour about using the GI to lose weight.  Pretty book -- lots of pictures.  A few darned good recipes, too.  I was excited to be able to use some cereals and pastas again, with his technique which would theoretically allow me to shed some pounds.  Talk about eating your cake and having it too!

Ya know how with almost ANY new diet you dump some pounds, even if it's only from a heightened metabolism that comes with enthusiasm and excitement?  Not this time.  A couple of weeks of the Montignac Method, and i gained.  The new Atkins he AIN'T.

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  1. The glycemic index is great, as long as you keep it around zero.

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  2. LOL- sometimes the train wrecks are so massive, you cannot help but look. I'm telling you, it amazes me that the diabetics I know are still choosing the food they do. It makes me sad. :(

    Onward. Hopefully the science and the direction will change direction in the next 2-5 years.

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    1. you dreamer! ;-) it's going to take a lot of very vocal and stubborn people (like Keys was) to make more noise than all the advertisers do, before our philosophy goes mainstream! BigAg, BigPharm and BigFood are all aiming their guns in the same direction.

      it seems to me that the message IS out there, but so many people are married to the simplistic rhetoric, like ELMM, CICO, and if you want to take fat off your body you want to eat as little of it as possible -- hell, i believed it once, too....

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    2. not just "married to it" it's encoded in our psychic DNA & collective unconscious and most of us (the non-thinking sheep) are still conditioned to fear & obey our elders (medical authorities)

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    3. so maybe those of us who were let down by the medical business at a younger age are lucky, and now more inclined to ignore their pronouncements....

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  3. My diabetic mother-in-law used to accuse me of eating "kooky food" as she stuffed her face with bread and cake. I've lost so much weight she's dropped the commentary, but continues the carbo-gorging (not to mention chain smoking). She says she's too old to change her ways. I think she's just too mean to die. :-)

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    1. lol -- some people seem to be, don't they? my mother and MIL both cleave to the late-twentieth-century philosophy too; both being in their eighties, of course they think that they're doing the right thing, nutritionally, and couldn't benefit from change anyway. MY mother is in darned good shape for 89, but she's also been through breast cancer, colon cancer, two knee replacements and cataract surgery. :-( MIL had a heart attack, has bad hips, and not much hearing left.

      [sigh]

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    2. May be smoking is not the worst unhealthy practice. Famous Kitovans smoke (and eat once a day), there are numerous evidence nicotine keeps appetite down. I wouldn't take on smoking because it has many negative effects on health, but like almost anything, it is not completely without benefits.

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    3. i have a problem with nightshades, myself, but confess to have considered a nicotine patch!

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    4. @Tess,
      You can check the experience of that guy.http://lowcarbconfidential.com/?s=nicotine
      Due to personal health history I take allergies issue very seriously. I think whatever makes allergies worse is better to be avoided. Sometimes the only symptom mild allergy has is low energy level, sluggishness and a water retention.
      I used to smoke on and off while being young, but never developed any addiction to nicotine, but people who do complain on the severity of that addiction.

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    5. yeah, i'm sure you're right about the nicotine ... not to mention your reminder about allergies producing fatigue! that slipped past my radar, but ya know, when my husband is in town i end up eating a lot more dairy. i determined last year that the only "safe dairy" for me is butter -- a big THANK YOU for reminding me! :-D

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    6. You are welcome,Tess, just, please, don't take me too seriously. I know nothing for sure.

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    7. Tobacco has been used for centuries as a pesticide. It's even officially considered organic, even though it's highly toxic. As for using it to keep weight down, it'll collect its toll on your skin and teeth.

      http://healthfully.org/tobacco/id13.html

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    8. I read about the experience of the person who experimented with nicotine lozenges. It indeed killed his appetite, but somehow he didn't lost weight, and quit doing so after 3 years.

      " Nicotine lozenges will not help you lose weight. Don’t even try.
      I am spelling this out because I still get traffic to the posts where I wrote about this in my enthusiastic, early trials on the stuff. While it did have an early effect of helping to stop overeating, the addictive nature of nicotine began to overshadow the endeavor as the effect on overeating diminished, leaving me with no positive effect on my weight loss – and an expensive addiction to boot."

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    10. @ Lori, your point is well made! at my age, anything that would worsen my skin is a non-starter.

      @Galina, some time ago, Wooo played with nicotine gum, but decided (if i remember correctly) that if she did it again, she's use the smallest patch she could find. i've been curious ever since.

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    11. Tess, do you you have problem with appetite or you just want to check if positives in nicotine overweight negatives? I remember reading Wooo's post you mentioned. I guess, that patch verses lozenges application may depend on the possible issue to treat. If somebody gets hunger pangs between meals, it is more suitable to use lozenges briefly, if you are after other effect of nicotine like dopaminogenic effect or fat mobilization, then patch looks more suitable.

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    12. i usually don't have hunger/appetite problems, but the fat mobilization/dopaminogenic aspect would be where i could be interested in experimenting. :-) not determined to try it yet, but maybe on my next plateau...?

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  4. Lori said

    "The glycemic index is great, as long as you keep it around zero."

    Sound advice in my not so humble opinion LOL.

    Eddie

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    1. well stated, too! i've found her a very sensible lady (with good recipes)!

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